I've spent the last couple of days researching all this so here is my thought process which may also help with your decision. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Plus half of what I would need from VKB is out of stock. The biggest thing for me seems to be waiting time. If that checks out, Elite should see all the analog axes and some of the buttons. > Pictures > Reviews Have you tried each device individually with nothing else plugged in? The VKB software also allows an enormous amount of customization like a shift key action to double up on everything or (what I find sufficient) a 'tempo' function so a quick tap vs. a longer press has 2 different operations for buttons or certain hat positions. Same would be true with the Gunfighter. Both companies use high quality metal gimbals and contactless sensors for axes. HOTAS (hands on throttle and sticks) You are using an out of date browser. I'd pass on the NXT if your budget allows for something with cams. I also have smallish hands and found that VKB is better suited to my hands and more ergonomically designed. My experience with these sticks is in a HOSAS setup (With the MCG being part of my old HOTAS), so there may be some "synergy" for HOTAS binding considerations that might sway one way or another for the MCG vs Constellation. So I did that, but two things happened: one was checking in Windows, I saw THREE T-50 CM throttles, although ED now could see all the panel buttons and switches. Anyone use Vjoy or similar to get past ED's 32 button limit? We use cookies and other tracking technologies to improve your browsing experience on our site, show personalized content and targeted ads, analyze site traffic, and understand where our audiences come from. 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It has about twice as many buttons as Microsoft Windows recognizes on a game controller, which means youll need to take some extra time to get it tuned before you hop into a game. This is significant. Looking at grips VKB and Virpil are more similar and it feels like preference is mostly related to hand size and just what each person prefers. > DIY I think that there's a good chance that the Gunfighter + mcg ultimate will take the spot as best consumer joystick on the market. It may not display this or other websites correctly. All rights reserved Note that youll need two of the Desk Mount V3-S devices for a HOSAS solution using the Virpil Constellation sticks, which brings the price of accessories up to $140. First, the documentation on these products ranges from awful to non-existent. I'm in a similar boat to you. You basically have the exact situation as me, except that I am using detachable desktop mounts to put the stick and throttle at a better hight for my arms, which I can then move them out of the way after play, like you had to. HOSAS made me a harder target to hit, and helped to improve my own aim especially with fixed weapons. Powered by Invision Community, 2012-2022 1C Game Studios | 1-777 Limited, 32 Kritis Street, Papachristoforou Building, 4th Floor, 3087 Limassol, Cyprus. So vkb is not the first/only. Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. The products are engineered solid and no-bullshit. Very close to the real thing (comparing it to C-130J and A400M controls). I read a few posts about which is best but most people commenting have not used both to really compare. It will also likely have the same kind of impact when Elite Dangerous: Odyssey launches later this year, adding first-person, on-foot gameplay to that spacefaring game. In terms of bases I like my VKB base a bit more than my Vipril base. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. So just swap grips and flash firmware for the. Don't use the Windows or any third party stuff. Virpil's compression springs in the Mongoos are nice, but the WarBRD doesn't use them. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Both the MCG (right hand only) grip and Kosmosima Premium (left or right) have plenty. I do play in VR pretty often, so the numerous buttons at my fingertips on the Virpil stick apeals to me. You can blame Microsoft Flight Simulator for the flight stick shortage were experiencing. But as far as quality of the gimbals, both are fantastic. Overall, I'd recommend VKB for quality and performance. I don't predict it being a huge game changer, but it's kinda the first time we've had an all metal grip in a high end joystick. It may show you something you did wrong. Have a look through the Virpil forums. Ace pedals also have a much better mounting solution, in my opinion, compared to the TPR pedals. The impact was especially prominent in Star Citizen, which has much faster ships and far more aggressive combat. Explaining the difference is difficult to do with words. Perhaps toe break tension as well. Gonna sound real silly but I miss the days of walking into a electronics shop and being able to actually try the feel of the sticks out. Swapping out the throttle for another stick meant that I had to constantly hold the left-hand stick forward to maintain forward thrust. With those limitations in mind, I still cant help but recommend Virpil. Somebody has also made some printable maps so that you can record what and where you have settings. Looks like the Virpil devices need more power that I have available. They are both superb bits of kit though and you will not regret buying either. Either way, in terms of quality and build at least it seems like a toss up. There are some there. I managed to get hold of a Virpil constellation alpha (R) and a CM2 throttle, it was an emotional 2 month process. Better still, the Constellations side-mounted thumbsticks mean that you can actually navigate on foot without ever taking your hands off the joysticks. VKB offers an adapter that has to replace the stock connector/pinout in the grip. (The Alpha-R is on backorder along with the MongoosT-50CM2 grip as well). If you go with a HOTAS solution instead, making use of one of Virpils fully-customizable throttle boxes, youll need a slightly larger version of the clamp and a special adapter plate. 12V/7.5A. Cookie Notice I have the twist adapter for the original MCG and while the twist itself is great, the ergonomics of the MCG grip are not the best for twisting (as it was never really designed for that). Its high-end equipment is currently in stock. Ok yes the firmware and software was installed. All rights reserved, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS3OC6-CBv4. Virpil is a more competitive option if you want to use TM grips out of the box (but you could just buy a VKB adapter and do the same or a WinWing base). > Sales Right now my mind is still on a throttle rather than 2 sticks and I'm looking at either the Virpil MongoosT or the VKB one that is allegedly coming in a couple of months. Was looking at getting a new one but decided I might as well upgrade to either the VKB Gunfighter or Virpril T50 and would love some advice and opinions on both setups. sorry don't own one but a here's a something you may like to try first. I play 98% Elite Dangerous and 2% DCS and MSFS. Good news for fans of Microsoft Flight Simulator, Elite Dangerous, and Star Citizen. Me personally I plan to upgrade to mcg ultimate with the gf mkIII base from vkb, when they come out for people who dont already have gf base in February. ELITE DANGEROUS TRAINING Challenge Scenarios INCURSIONS Let's play in 2023 | PC | 4K | Live Stream | Solo / Alone NOOB w HOSAS VKB + Virpil #elitedangerous . Problem isn't your Virpil, Elite Dangerous cannot use past 32 buttons on a device. The Gunfighter is apparently available so even though I probably don't need it, common sense might desert me and I'll plump for the pricier option just because I cant wait. Still, you cant really go wrong with either choice. If I want to upgrade in the future I can just buy the Gunfighter base and use the kosmosima stick (If VKB follow through and actually let you buy bases separately). I definitely have more than 38 inputs on my x55. What little product is actually available even used equipment is going for wildly inflated prices. Please check your email to find a confirmation email, and follow the steps to confirm your humanity. Also, I'm not dead set on those two options by any means. Previously, those functions sat on a tiny hat switch on my throttle. If you have the budget for it, I'd say wait a week to see some reviews for the MCG Ultimate. It may not display this or other websites correctly. My advice, of course, is to give the scalpers a wide berth. Try contacting vkb about the broken parts, depending on how old your stick is, I've seen people post on here that they just sent them a bunch of parts to repair failed items. Be careful about copying other peoples bindings, as most of them seem to have really weird ideas or they might do only exploring so never use pips and things like that. The full analog mini on both (plus the option of the second which is switchable from digital hat to analog on the fly on the MCG Pro) offers additional axes besides the main X/Y. I use one from Wavlink and have 7 devices plugged into it with no problems, including a Virpil joystick, a VKB joystick and a Virpil throttle. The VKB Ultimate grip may be interesting due to the material and modularity of it. I plan on positing a review of the mcg ultimate once I receive it (should be getting it later this week hopefully) if you're curious. Not sure where you're concerned about 'number of buttons' available with VKB though. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. > Q&A Another highlight for me were Virpils Ace Interceptor Rudder Pedals. My x55 stick looks like it's reached the end of it's life and I'm looking for a new stick first then we'll see. Thank you guys for the help. Everything I've ever bought from VKB has been spot on out of the box. Virpil has its own configuration and testing. But, by pulling back on that stick I had easy access to reverse thrust, which makes slowing down and changing directions in space a lot snappier. Been rocking dual gladiator Ks for a while now (they have been discontinued and replaced with the NXT) but just recently, with just under about 6 months of use I've been having a few small things breaking. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Im looking at either going the virpil mongoos T-50 CM2 base with the mongoos T-50 CM2 grip or constellation alpha grip with the 200mm S curve extension for 554.81 euro (905.89 aud) (includes shipping). It works perfectly with all buttons. Got a Virpil throttle but I can only program about half the hats, axis', and buttons because of ED limiting us to 32 "buttons" per device. I have a Virpil cm2 throttle and a vkb gladiator nxt. As I said before I dont think you can go wrong either way though. Maybe you should try moving some to other ports on your computer if you haven't tried that yet. There are all sorts of advice guides on how to optimise your chances. The ideal base for Warthog - a heavy (~1KG) grip plus extension is T50CM2. Valve Corporation. Only set up a profile for each device with the other unplugged. Generally you will find that Virpil is considered the top dog in the mid-range sim gear bracket. 04.08.20|The sheet for the Throttle has been updated (a button was missing). Unless you know where they are on the sticks, it'll be very confusing. I've had Virpil for a while and have even refined my setup over time trying different grips/bases/throttles. By 1 - does anyone have both of these setups and can tell me what they prefer? I'm not an expert by any stretch, I only intend to use this for Elite Dangerous. I also built a button box arrangement into my chair power controls (seat adjust, subwoofer, surround shoulder speakers, cooling) and find I almost never let go of the sticks to USE the button box. Toe in and out being the most prominent I can see. I will be using it for flight sims mainly dcs in modern jets f14, f18 and i will have it centre mounted in a simpit. Better options out there? I used this for my warthog. But now Im able to use the two sticks twist axes to handle strafing (right) and moving up and down (left). It took me 6 months before I could get my order in for the Alpha. You're not running all your USB devices through the one hub are you? Lastly if you have any thoughts please let me know as i know for some spending this kind of money is easy but for its hard for me as now that i have a young family money isnt just failing out of my wallet and i want to make the right purchase as i can barely afford to do it once. The V3-S also opens the door to additional customization options, including mounts that hang a keyboard, mouse pad, additional button boxes, and more all off of the same clamp. Just got the Virpil Constellation Alpha-R grip with the Warbrd base, as well as the 50 CM2 throttle and elite doesn't see any Virpil hardware. The feel and build quality is like nothing else. If youre stuck on Microsoft Flight Simulator especially the big commercial airliners give Honeycomb Aeronautical a try. The thing that really sold me on it is that the hat switches and mini sticks on the the top are completely modular, so you can literally just drop whichever one you like to suit your purposes without having to take apart the stick. That made the experience in Star Citizen, which features a surprising amount of walking, much more enjoyable. Also, I did notice some defective materials in the batch of products that I received. Those look awfully nice. Elite also won't recognize any button inputs that are greater than #32. JavaScript is disabled. If not, then you've configured the device incorrectly. You can also remove about an inch of height from the pedals, stripping off the rubber feet and the entire lower frame, to attach them directly to a custom flight seat. I haven't checked Virpil in a while but didn't think anything had more than the MCG Pro, with the hat over on the index finger position as well as on the thumbrest. While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. Price isn't the issue as much as quality for me. So I accidentally broke my TM Warthog yesterday, not a fun experience. This alone has made me settle on getting the Virpil base. VIRPIL hardware - key mapping setups (PDF) for you to fill out Oh, and to actually answer your question: both the virpil constellation and vkb kosmosima are fantastic. Out of the box, Virpils large, grippy rubber feet stay put on most surfaces. Just wish they would have shipped with more replacement parts if they're so prone to breaking under regular usage. Unfortunately, they're a way down the list now. I love both sets but have settled on an MCG Gunfighter with T-rudders and the Virpil throttle. Starting to wonder about the all-metal construction with that new ultimate grip, and maybe investing in a heavier duty base. Second, know that the current incarnation of the Virpil throttle box may simply be too much for most users. If anyone has alternate suggestions for awesome, high quality flight sticks. Or I can get the Virpil one and have a 2 stick approach which will let me actually assess a proper preference. Common sense tells me that the Gladiator NXT is the sensible option. VirPil make easy use Tm Warthog (or Cougar) grip in their bases, since use the same connection nut and grip electronics. My own conclusion was that VKB is around 10% cheaper and 99% as good as Virpil. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. I've been lucky enough to have purchased of a Virpil CM2 throttle and a Constellation Alpha on Warbird base and I think they are fantastic! Initially it was all a bit daunting but after a fair bit of reading various threads this is where I'm at A bit about my requirements - Got to be desktop based. I didn't say ED provided a game setting for Virpil. Logitech, Thrustmaster, and many of the big name manufacturers are out of stock everywhere you look. Right? Please note you will lose the axis on the brake lever that comes with the Virpil grip, as the Warthog grip only supports button press on that lever. Vectors which had previously been relegated to the keyboard or tiny hat switches were now integrated into the joysticks themselves. I have a VKB stick/pedals and a Virpil throttle, and I feel that VKB hardware is higher quality overall (mostly due to the electronics/internals). Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn34PHd34x4, Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8odaH98Yms. If you buy something from a Polygon link, Vox Media may earn a commission. Probably a little bit of a chore to swap them out. Please enter a valid email and try again. Press J to jump to the feed. It would be wrong to say that TECS "worthily follows the line of VKB engineering tradition . I do use pedals too but haven't even mapped twist on my right hand, so that's itself not a limitation if you didn't intend to use them. WarBRD with more throw has some difficulties for center this heavy grip. It features a dead-simple clamp with an adjustable bite, which you can dial in to firmly grasp the edge of your desk surface and hold fast. But, if youre looking to spend a relatively modest amount of money on a more general purpose device something that might work with terrestrial and space flight I recommend you take a look at Virpil Controls, a small European company that is doing some really remarkable work. For space sims, I think Virpil has it over VKB hands down when looking at the Kosmosima vs Constellation Alpha. Oops. i use a steam controller and nothing else mostly unless i need a hotkey for certain things on the keyboard. and our They strike a good balance between price point and feature set, sitting comfortably in between classics like the Logitech X-52 and the Thrustmaster T16000, and higher end products from Thrustmaster and VKB. I also had several screw heads shatter as I attempted to remove them, either due to being made from weak metal or being gummed up with too much thread locking paste. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. Theyre also beautifully powder coated, and come with all the bolts you need to make the attachment to the Constellation. You must log in or register to reply here. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. A weekly roundup of the best things from Polygon, By submitting your email, you agree to our, Theres a new challenger in the world of flight sticks and throttles, Sign up for the Been playing flight sims with a rig I purchased last year but ED was on my list of reasons why I spent money on a good input suite. I saw Vjoy mentioned as a solution but it seems to be half of the solution because it seems to require another program to virtually map the physical device (in this case a throttle). The right-hand stick still has complete control of pitch and yaw, while rudder pedals handle roll. It feels more robust than the Logitech X-52 and X-56, but lighter than the all-metal Thrustmaster Warthog. Dunno how it is usable in space sims. Sorry to resurrect the thread, but I've have my MongoosT-50CM2 throttle for a couple of months and my Constellation Delta should be in this week. VKB complicate unnecessary the things, because being a "Apple" require a . The only things I don't have as mapped out as I'd ideally like for VR are camera and perhaps fighter pilot commands. It will simply store your configuation under "custom". Previously I had played spaceflight simulation games with a single stick and throttle, which is known as a hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) setup. https://1drv.ms/p/s!AuHD2NL7qn3w3gxZVfByQOacohmx?e=RhWkjj. I would think it should be enough. A good USB powered hub should help with this. Here's my mapping for Elite, perhaps a little out of date re: some of the macros I mentioned above, and admittedly I use my LH stick weird (sideways oriented as a throttle) so I've converted an axis to 'relative' mode with a button as reset, which removes it from use as a button in-game. VKB vs Thrustmaster T16000M Ken Cikas 1.4K subscribers Subscribe 20K views 3 years ago Put about 170 hours into Elite Dangerous and this T16000M from Thrustmaster is about done so I. Most people get around this by using software such as Vjoy, Joystick Gremlin, or JoyToKey. What it really comes down to is whether you plan to use the twist. newsletter. The VKB base has some nice features the Virpil base doesn't have (dampers) and overall just rates a bit higher in terms of quality/performance. It has plenty of hat switches, plus an assortment of triggers that are perfect for games in the IL-2 Sturmovik family or other high-end simulations. And, just like everyone else, Virpils stuff is on backorder as well. I do find VKB to do much nicer and cleaner internal work which matters if or when you have to open up your grip. I've gone back to a single, non-split profile, still nada on any of the three axes . Elite will not show a profile that specifically names the Virpil hardware. There's only so much your thumb can roam around and do. Question on the VKB customization software? Maybe you should check out youtube and see the posts about how to do the setup. All rights reserved. If so, how and what programs? While the input devices alone are excellent, Virpil also has a line of surprisingly affordable custom mounting solutions. If you fly helos, you will fall in love with this. That's it. 4 - what grip do people think is better the T-50 or the alpha? I intend to do mostly spaceflight sims with the stick(s). Ive been taking it for a test drive on my custom-built flight rig. - VKB gunfighter base vs Virpils bases: VKB has a dry clutch. For around $70 you can get the Virpil Desk Mount V3-S. So, just to make sure I have this strait, MCG is the 'Modern Combat' Gunfighter stick and the Kosmosima is the 'Space Combat' edition of the gunfighter? People use keyboard to play E:D. Keyboards have more than 32 buttons.. my x56 throttle alone has more than 32 buttons, all bound to ed controls :). What do you mean by splitting axes? 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